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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.03.24 01:40:00 -
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Tweaks Huren wrote:jon zollinger wrote:Well if you have to kill stuff that's as difficult as missions and you can make more money in missions why would you mine when you can just run missions...? Because mining is a basic requirement for industry and you can't get minerals by running only missions. There will always be a need for mining as long as the base material for production will be minerals.
you didn't actually answer the question, you know that right? Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.03.24 02:06:00 -
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Tweaks Huren wrote:The point of this suggestion is to make mining impossible to do solo
read that quote. again, and again. until you realise how dumb this idea is. Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.03.24 13:20:00 -
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Tweaks Huren wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Tweaks Huren wrote:The point of this suggestion is to make mining impossible to do solo
read that quote. again, and again. until you realise how dumb this idea is. You're not quoting the whole sentence! The point of this suggestion is to make mining impossible to do solo,unattended with only drones as a guard....and even then, I don't think it's dumb at all. Yes, the implications are huge if you can't just mine solo anymore, but nothing prevents you from using one of your alts and dual-box to guard your miner. Technically, a single player can still do it without the need for a paid escort or a full blown mining operation. The point is to prevent afk mining and botting. Not to prevent solo mining altogether. How else would you suggest we get rid of AFK and botters without affecting the PvP security of high-sec?
the last part of the sentence doesn't make any difference. you're still basically saying you want to make solo mining impossible. do you not comprehend how much of a terrible idea that is?
why do you need to get rid of afk miners? also, ban botters. why are you trying to "fix" (and you're not even doing that) something that simply doesn't need fixing. Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.03.25 07:31:00 -
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Andski wrote:Who else isn't surprised at miners being opposed to a change that makes their passive, inattentive gameplay marginally more difficult?
"guys it's a sandbox doesn't that mean I can do whatever I want and succeed at it?"
nope, not at all
except his idea, as per his own admission, doesn't make mining harder. it makes it impossible. Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.03.25 14:34:00 -
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Tweaks Huren wrote: I do know a few people however that have multiple accounts (over 6) and basically created their own mini-mining-op to mine the same Ice rock AFK all day long without using bots and make enough ISK that way to fund PLEXes for all his characters. I find that a little abusing.
he's not afk all day, he's afk for like half an hour until his cargo is full, then he has to empty it. also he's earning like 7m isk/hour. for that little isk i'd expect to be putting in that little effort. Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |
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